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 No gas guage...orange light...sputter...
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gdickelman
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1191 Posts
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Annandale, VA
USA

Moto Guzzi

California Vintage

Posted - 11/06/2009 :  7:45 PM
I'm pretty good about resetting my trip odometer at each refueling, and calculating mileage. The Moto Guzzi traverses 48 - 52 miles per gallon. That has been consistent since I bought the beast in 2007. It does not have a gas gauge, but has an orange "idiot" light, which begins to glow at about 135 miles into a tank of gas. While I have never tested it, the five gallon tank should carry me over 200 miles. I've stretched it to 200 once or twice, with no trouble.

A few weeks back I picked the bike up from the dealer near Baltimore (routine service) and proceeded to Gettysburg for a business meeting. I was cresting a hill three miles from my destination and at 176 miles, when the bike sputtered, stalled and coasted to a pathetic stop, in the middle of nowhere.

You guessed it...I ran out of gas! There had been some tinkering with the trip odometer while in service, apparently, and hence I had less gas than indicated.

Thankfully, AAA with RV came to the rescue, but I was mortified. I should have realized that the early onset of the "idiot" light was a signal to the idiot driving the Guzzi that it was time to stop for gas.

scottrnelson
Advanced Member
5258 Posts
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Pleasanton, CA
USA

KTM

990 Adv, ST2, XR650L

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  9:57 AM
It's interesting how we can rationalize about how far we expect to go when the low fuel light is glowing. I managed to run a Ducati Monster completely dry once when I was doing some acceleration tests to check carburetor settings while the light was glowing. Who would think that making about ten 0-99 mph acceleration runs up a hill would use gas faster than normal riding?

I also managed to run my Mustang down to totally empty by rationalizing that I could easily go another 30 miles before I really needed to fill it up, then forgetting all about it. At least I managed to get to the parking lot at work before it started to seriously act empty. I was somehow thinking I could drive one more mile to the gas station - no such luck. I had my wife bring the gas can from the garage that time.

When in doubt, fill the tank. Especially before heading into any area with few or no gas stations.
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greywolf
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682 Posts
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Evanston, IL
USA

Suzuki

DL650AK7

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  10:14 AM
Fuel injected vehicles with in tank fuel pumps are cooled by the fuel they sit in. Running out of fuel or even running very low a lot can drastically shorten the life of the fuel pump.

Edited by - greywolf on 11/07/2009 2:28 PM
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gdickelman
Male Moderator
1191 Posts
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Annandale, VA
USA

Moto Guzzi

California Vintage

Posted - 11/07/2009 :  10:34 AM
quote:
Originally posted by greywolf

Fuel injected vehicles with in tank fuel pumps are cooled by the fuel they sit it. Running out of fuel or even running very low a lot can drastically shorten the life of the fuel pump.



When the event occurred and the engine was sputtering, I recall saying to myself, "I wonder what I am damaging by running out of fuel...must be something." You have confirmed my suspicion.

I guess the orange light has the image of a gas pump on it for a reason....
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Niebor
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  8:41 PM
I suspect most of us run out of gas at least once in ten years or so. This bike has a gas gauge, I've never... quite run it out. The latest close call was last spring. I was running late for a meet at the base of Pikes Peak. I figured I'd get gas just before heading up the mountain. It didn't occur to me that there is no gas between Colorado Springs and Pikes Peak. I started up on a 1/4 tank. The good news is that it's all downhill on the way back.

By the time we made it back to the Springs I took on 3.76 Gall in a 3.9 Gall tank. The dent I-70 left behind a couple years back likely reduces capacity about .1 G. Had to have been on fumes.

Regarding your electric fuel pump. In addition to cooling issues, the motor is a torque-limited design, meaning it will spin much faster when not pumping fuel. This is also quite destructive. I would advise never running a fuel injected bike below 1/4 tank. Same with your car, for that matter.

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